Hi, Mike, I heard more than once a remark that if a space telescope will go to an cis-lunar space of L2, it can see millions of black holes. Number "millions" caught my ear. Following reasoning in your paper https://doi.org/10.3847/1538-4357/ab2bed we assume that a 4m EHE will have SEFD 2D4 Jy at 245 GHz. Paired with phased ALMA with SEFD 150 mJy and recording at 128Gbps, its 1-sigma sensitivity will be 0.88 sqrt ( 2.D4*1.5D2/(2*32D9) ) = 6 mJy. One can detect a point-like source if its brighter 7 sigma or 40 mJy for one second of integration time. Observing for 30 sec, the detection limit drops to 40/sqrt(30) = 7 mJy. SEFD of LMT, APEX are at best 4000 Jy. LMT/EHE baseline is a factor of sqrt(4000/150) = 5 less sensitive. A 35 mJy source can be detected for 30 sec at 128Gbps at that baseline. Figure 5R in your paper https://doi.org/10.3847/1538-4357/ac2eb5 provides a plot of source count at a given "horizon-scale" flux density. I took a rule and got an approximate number of the total number (thick black line) from that graph: 100 mJy: 1 10 mJy ~20 1 mJy ~400 These numbers seem to me reasonable. That means that observing in favorite conditions we can detect up to ~40 sources. Compare with > 20,000 sources we have detected and imaged at ground-ground baselines at 1.4-8 GHz. In order to claim detection of a ring, one need to have sensitivity at least a factor of 2-3 greater than the detection limit. That means that at best, an EHE/ALMA interferometer can potentially detect rings at one-two dozens of source provided, ... a long number of conditions. In a nutshell, although EHE can see millions of AGNs, the number of sources a 4m-EHE/phasedALMA instrument can detect at 245 GHz is measured in dozens, not in millions. In order to detect one million sources, one need to reach a detection limit at a ~10 microJy level. A pair of space antennas with a diameter 1km is needed for that. The number of detectable sources at lower frequencies is of course, much greater, although it is measured in hundreds or thousands, not in millions for an interferometer 4 meter space antenna + ground. An inflatable 30-m class space antenna will improve sensitivity by a factor of 30/4 = 7.5 and increase the number of detectable sources at 245 GHz to several hundreds. Leonid 2022.01.14_12:21:30